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and Answers

Question 1
AI
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so, there are
:'the aWarded v many ITB Specificati
~nformation T endor" must or shal ons that indicate the St '
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Information 'fo~tISh seems to indicat~ fh will do certain things ~e s expectation that
bidd
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at the State'
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~r and aWarded th eCI Ication from the ve dis only looking for detailed
provide an ans
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specification
that we
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each specification ine~~h vendor provide detail:~:~fod and will comply with each
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Answer to question 1
Ave n d or, by retuming a si
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understood and the vendo;~~1 c~d, Indicates that the ITB requirements are '
~ach requirement of the awarded mply WI~h the reqUirements. A response to
Information required of the awa d v;ndor IS ~ot required. Also, detailed
the bid.
r e vendor IS not required to be submitted with
Question 2.
Page 2 - Section 6.3 - Customer References
~i!1 the STATE consider requiring additional customer references including a
hS~lng of.all.state accounts served as prime contractor during the past 4 years
(With an indication of whether the account is a current or past customer)? This
additional reqUirement could provide a more accurate picture of vendors' service
history across their entire customer base.
Answer"to question 2.
Additional customer references will not be required and no additional credit will
be given for listing more than the required references.
Question 3.
Page 4 _ Section 8.6.4 - Fees to Inmate Friends and Family
In research of the current vendor we found the following :
• Deposits by Western Union appeared to incur a fee of $5.00 and up,
depending on location and amount funded
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Prepaid account refunds appeared to incur a fee of $5.00

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A $50 prepaid account funding by IVR and web appeared to incur a fee of

$9.50
Is the STATE able to confirm these amounts? In addition, we respectfully
request two additional requirements for this section:

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a) Vendors to affirm that th
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prior to them being charged
se a fees and POlicies to end-users
b) Vendors to detail in th .
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w . ey identify AL DOC end-users
ees at the time of account funding
Answer to question 3.
The State is unable to confirm the
awarded vendor to follow th f
amounts. questioned. ADOC expects the
not allowed.
e ee schedule In section 8.6.4. Add itional fees are
The State declines to add th tw
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section.
e 0 additional requirements suggested for this
Question 4.

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Page 3 - 8.5.1 - Certification. and 8.6.2. Inmate Rates
In Section 8 .6.2. the STATE requires a vendor to hold a Certificate of Public
Convenience and Necessity to Provide Inmate Phone Servica. The ITS was
released on March 20 and. unfortunately. submissions for the April Public
Service Commission docket closed that day. Approval from the May docket
should occur on or about May 3. Would the STATE consider amending this
requirement to allow a vendor to provide this certification subsequent to bid
submission but prior to award?
Answer to question 4.
The deadline for bid submission will be extended to May 8. 2012.
Question 5.
Page 16 -10.7 - Unprofitable Pay Telephones
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. sect'Ion s t ate s that the" ... vendor may petition the STATE for relocation of
ThiS
th
he tele hone" in situations where t~e revenu~ generated does not cover e
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p W uld the STATE conSider changing the language to state
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expenses.
... .. relocation or removaL .. ?
Answer to question 5.
Yes. 10

.7 has been amended to accommodate this request.

Question 6.
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11 2 10 - DirectOries
~~~h!2STA~~ I~:nside~ allowing a free call to 411 from the payphone in place of

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requiring directories?
Answer to question 6.
Directories are required .

Question 7
Page 22 - Section 11.2 142 U
Will the STATE allow thO . - se of eXisting enclosures
units from the current v:n~~~~hase of existing payphones, enclosures and TOO
Answer to question 7
The purchase of eXisiin
vendor is considered a g~s~~~~~~r~~ enc.losures and TOO units from the current
payphones, enclosures and TD
. sactlon between the vendors. Existin
order are acceptable.
D units currently installed and in good work?ng
Question 8.
Page 26 - Section 11 .3.4.8. _ Cabling
a)
Is the inside wiring th t
STATE?
a each phone is connected to owned by the

b)

Will the STATE ex pain what cabling IS owned by the current vendor that
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can be acquired or leased?

c)

Are .there any sites that have major cable issues or no more plant facilities
available?

Answer to question 8.
a)
The inside wiring that each phone is connected to is owned by the State
with the exception of the Holman, J.O. Davis, Fountain and Atmore
facilities. Converting those facilities to State owned wiring is currently
being studied.
b)
The current vendor does not own inside cabling that each phone is
connected to.
The State is not aware of major cable issues or limitations of plantfacilities
c)
available.
Question 9.
Additional Value Added Products and Service - General Question
Will the STATE please advise if there is an interest and corresponding
impact on evaluation and scoring for additional features that will enhance
the inmate telephone system (ITS) functionality, security while automating
to reduce staff resources? For example:
a) Interface the ITS with offender management and trust systems for
automatic population of inmate information without dual entry and
offer the inmate the option of purchasing calling time and
commissary items which will benefit the STATE as well as the
inmate.
b) Page 27 - Section 11.3.5.4 - Storage Requirements, increase the
provision of storage required from 90 days to the length of the

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/copnetrrad~t as0tffhlS could aid investigations without impacting financial
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~~~~set~eatures an~ processes are desired, will the STATE consider
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ese a reqUirement and or assign Bid Evaluation weighting?

Answer to question 9.
Additional value added
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pro uc s will not be considered or evaluated during the
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Question 10.
Attachment C - Revenue Summary

In order to provide the best per diem offer, would the STATE provide
some additional data regarding existing calling patterns:
a) The number of calls by jurisdiction and month, in addition to the
revenue and minutes already provided?
b) InterLATA calling broken out by intrastate vs. interstate?
The overall percentage of revenue that is collect vs. prepaid?
Answer to question 10.
Additional calling data will not be provided by the State.
Question 11 .
General - Inmate rules for telephone system access
a) Does the STATE utilize any disciplinary restrictions to the inmate
telephone system beyond those described in AR #431?
b) On average how many inmates are restricted from using the telephones _
in particular, Administrative Segregation, Disciplinary Segregation, and
any other restriction defined outside AR #431 - at any given time?
Answer to question 11 .
Inmate phone usage may also be restricted under AR 403 and AR 414.
Data on inmate phone restrictions is not collected.

Question 12.
The current phone ITS
service the phone can appears to have a state
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provide electronic
ment regarding an add"!"
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money transl
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eyou able to clarify for
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clanfy that within the ITS?me If this IS an option? And 'f 't .
I I IS NOT, how we can
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Answerto qUestion 12.
The electronic tra f
inmate phone
ns ers referred to in the ITS
are
aCCOunts set uvendor deSignated for the purch
fU~ds paid directly to the
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transfers into t~ and maintained by the vendor a~h Inmate phone time in
e ADOC finanCial system.
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ese do not represent fund
JPay CUrrently performs services f
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or
family and friends to individual inm electromc money transfers of funds from
Inmate phone system.
ate accounts which are not related to the
Question 13.
Given the fact that this is b'd
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the State consi
.. a I and that the highest ·Per Diem" rate will win will
der reqUlnng all vendors, inclusive of the incumbent, to provide all
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ew .equlpment Including inmate telephones AND pay telephones? This will
prOVide a true open competitive bid with a level playing field for all vendors while
assunng that the State receives new eqUipment from any vendor that is av.:arded
the bid.
Answer to question 13.
The state will not consider this requirement. All installed equipment must be
operational.
Question 14.
Bid Instructions - Page 4 - It is noted that the State of Alabama is exempt from
paying Sales Tax. In a debit calling environment, the Inmates would be paying
the Sales Tax, not the State. Is it correct to expect that the Inmates are not
exempt from paying Sales Tax?
Answer to question 14.
Inmate pay phones are governed by the PSC under Docket 15957.
Question 15.
During the transition to a new vendor, the number of inmates in custody using a
new vendor's system will change from day to day which would affect the "Per
Diem" amount owed by a new vendor. Will the State describe how the "Per Diem"
amounts will be prorated during the transition from the incumbent to a new
vendor?

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Answer to question 15
State will charge per diem for the a
starting on the day of activation. verage number of inmates at each facility
Question 16.
ITS Page 5 S t·
, ec Ion 8.9.4 indicates tha
the Attachments list only 309 Will th t there are 400 pay telephones; however
are required or provide the li~tin f Ie St~te confirm that only the 309 payphones
A g O ocatlons for the other 91 pay telephones?
nswer to question 16
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There are appro'
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to reflect this. xlma e y 312 pay telephones. Section 8.9.4 has been amended
Question 17.
Please provide the
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teleph
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curren rates being charged for both inmate and pay
one service by the eXisting vendor?
Answerto question 17.
Current Inmate rates are included in the ITB at 8.6.2. Pay telephone rates must
be reasonable and customary, without any special surcharges of any kind.
Question 18.
Section 8.14.2 provides a listing of calling types that are to be considered
commissionable public payphone revenue. This statement however includes
multiple calling types where the vendor would not receive the revenue such as 1800-xxx-xxxx. Please confirm that the ADOC understands that commissions
would not be paid on calling types listed were the vendor'does not receive the
revenues.
Answer to question 18.
The vendor is not responsible for commissions on revenue that is not received .
Question 19.
With regard to any calculation of Gross Revenue for use in payment of any
commissions, please confirm that the ADOC understands that taxes, tax like
surcharges or any other fees that may be mandated by any governmental taxing
authority and charged to the end user will NOT be included in total Gross
Revenue calculations.
Answer to question 19.
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Gross revenue calculations are not applicable to per diem rates.

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Question 20.
Section 8.14.5 states that Comm' .
average number of inmate '
ISSlons will be calculated
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diem rate multiplied b th s In AOOC custody for the
by multiplying the
th
Y e nUmber f d
month by the v d r'
e specific process that the St t 0 ays in the billing month PI en 0 s per
aCCOunt inmate rele
a e will utilize to ensure
. ease provide
ase and intake factors.
accuracy taking into
Answer to question 20.
The State will calculate th
vendor.
e average daily inmate population and will provide it to
Question 21.
Section 11 .1.7 states thatthe DO
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telephone types Sectio 10 7 C Will work with the vendor on the mix of pay
(not just removed) unles: th' states th.at unprofitable phones can be relocated
confirm that the
b
ey are required for other reasons. Will the State
nurn er of payphones can also be adjusted as well?
Answer to question 21 .
Yes. 10.7 has been amended to accommodate this request.
Question 22.
Section 10.4.1 .2 states that the commission will be reported by call type, per
phone, location, and accounting code. Because the commission is based on the
per diem method (which will only be known after we get the count from the DOC),
there is a possibility that the monthly reports (which are calculated from usage)
broken out by the specified criteria will not match the commission reports. Is this
acceptable to the DOC or will the DOC alter the reporting criteria in the bid?
Answer to question 22.
Commission reports do not apply to the ADOC.
Question 23.
The ITS requ ires a Commission Bond in the amount of $5,000,000; however, the
State is currently only receiving a little more than $4,000,000 in commission
dollars. Will the State consider limiting the bond to one year's est~m~te~ per
diem/commissions total? Alternatively, will the State accept a majority (I.e. 8590%) of the per diem/commissions in an ~pfront a~nual payment, with an annual
true-up, as an alternative to the commiSSion bond .
Answer to question 23.
The $5,000,000 bond requirement stands.

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Will vendors receive any add't'
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fees?
I lonal bid credit for offerin I
g ower call rates and/or
Answer to question 24 .
No additional credit wili b
Q uastlon 25.

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ring Ower call rates and/or fees

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Will vendors receive any add't'
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value added services or will t~:~nb~dcredit for offering additional technology or
financial offer and ability t
I be awarded strictly based on the vendor's
o meet the specifications and requirements?
Answer to question 25.
No additional credit w'II b .
services.
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e given for additional technology or value added
Question 26.
8.10.
ADM IN IS!RATIVE FEE: The awarded BIDDER shall pay each month to
ISD an admlOistratlve fee in the amount of 1.5% (.0.015) of all commissions
relrutted under this contract during the prior month. The administrative fee will be
paid to ISO each month before the 20th and will represent 1.5% (.O.oI5) of all
commissions remitted und~r this ~ontract during the prior month and adjustment~
for error correctIOns assocIated wIth earlier months, This fee shall not be included
as a separate charge to any entity. Failure to comply with provisions of this
paragraph will be grounds for the State's termination of the contract with the
awarded BIDDER.

Please clarify - does this fee apply to inmate telephone revenue only or does it
apply to inmate and public coin phones?
Answer to question 26.
The administrative fee applies to both inmate phone commissions and public pay
phone commissions.
Question 27.
11.3.5.1
Storage on a hard drive for up to 90 days
This is a recommendation and not a question. As the incumbent vendor we have
occasionally had situations where Randy Yarborough's investigation team has
needed recordings older than 90 days. We recommend that you increase this
requirement to 365 days online storage.
Answer to question 27.
Storage requirements will remain as specified in 11.3.5.4.

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11.3.7.15 A toll·free Co

mmunlcationa IInelink t
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se clarify What is beln
0 each Institution.
9 referred to as the "toll-free
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Answer to question 28
communlcallon linelink"?
A "toll-free comm
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Institution
unlcation llnelink" ref
at no cost to the ADOC.
era to a database IInellink to each
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29.

There's two numbers that ar
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standard terms and
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number you want us to identify

e.', It s TA497, Just want to clarify
our bId package.

Answer to question 29
12-X-2238645 IS th e I' , , t S'd
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your bid on the bid envel
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is the number ass' ed ope package ~s Instructed on page 2 of the ITS, TA497
Ign to the contract Itself, not the ITS.
Question 30.

Are we to respond and fill out the standard terms and conditions document?
Answer to question 30.
The document referred to is the Invitation to Sid Document (ITS), and yes, this
document must be completed and submitted as instructed on page 2 of the ITB.
Question 31 .
Is the Price Sheet at the end of this document where the STATE wants the per
d iem and commission offer'?
Answer to question 31.
The per diem and commission offer is filled out on page 9 of the ITS.
Question 32.
Certain vendors have adopted a process of reclassifying calls such as
promotional calls that are not considered to be a "traditional inmate collect call"
and consumers are charged $14,99 for this type of call. Please confirm that all
completed calls originating from the correctional facilities as part of this contract
are subject to the maximum allowable rates on page 4 of the ITS.
Answer to question 32.
All inmate phone charges are govemed by the Alabama Public Service
Commission Docket 15957.

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Question 33.
In today's ~nmate calling environment alar
called parties who have pre-paid acc~u
ge nU':lber of calls are completed to
process of charging for "taxes d
nts. Certam vendors have adopted a
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deposit when funding these pr: .~egUlatory assessments" at the time of the
servi~es are provided and mas pal a~counts before any calls are received and
contam fees These ass
queradmg the fact they say their offer doesn't
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essments are as high
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WI out knowing whether th
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as
10 of the deposit amount
a called party is funding a e Cal!~s a local or interstate call. Please confirm that if
prepal account the vendor can only charge a nominal
service fee as outlined
actual taxes and th
on page 4 of the ITB for the deposit and only assess the
completed PI
e approved regulatory assessments at the time the call is
amount bu·t ease -confirm that vendors may not charge a rounded or blended
call This Wil~l,Jst.charge ;the ac~ual tax percentage on the·actual rated ,cost.ottb~
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ensure the Inmate s family and friends only pay for taxes and
~egu at.ory assessments based on the actual calls placed and not before service
IS prOVided to the family member.
Answer to question 33.
All inmate phone charges are governed by the Alabama Public Service,
Commission Docket 15957.
Question 34.
6.3 Customer References - Please confirm the references provided must be
from the Prime Contractor and not a subcontractor (e.g. a platform provider
bidding as a sub to another prime contractor) used to 'qualify' the Prime
Contractor.
Answer to question 34.
As stated in the ITB section 6.3, 'Vendors must provide with their bid references
a minimum of three (3) customers who are currently using the same software and
hardware offered with the bid response. At least one of the references must be a
state department of corrections or federal prison currently using the proposed
system."
Question 35.
6.3 Customer References.,.. What is the minimum tenure of the contract to be
used as a reference? Given the size, complexity and financial requirements of
this contract, we recommend each reference has a minimum of three
consecutive years.
Answer to question 35.
There is no minimum tenure for references.

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Question 36.

A~ there any additional evaluati

pnme contractor or SUbcontracto~~
Answer to question 36
No additional credit Wili b

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POints for Alabama based companies either

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e given for Alabama based companies

Question 37.

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10.11.2 Implementation Schedul
Schedule is also due within 10 d e - Please confirm the Implementation
ays of award.
Answer to question 37
The implement r
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has been amen~~dn t~C~~~Ulteth'~ due within 10 days of award. Section 10.11.2
CIS.

Question 38.
WI auld the State consider instea" of a commission bond, a bank letter of credit?
d
rrevocable bank letter of credit?
.
Answer to question 37.
No.

Question 39.
In the fees that were laid out you have an amount for lobby - - for 475 for a lobby
kiosk. Are you going to allow the vendor to put in lobby kiosks?
Answer to question 39.
Lobby kiosks are not part of this ITS.

Question 40.
Question about the pay phones. The way the commission runs, it's 60 days
following the close of the month. Would the commissioin follow generally 60
days - it mentioned 15 days from the time that you submitted your population
figures. Would that still be running on the same timeline as 60 days in arrears
from that?

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;ectiO n 87.14.15. C ommlsslons f or 'Inmat e ph ones must be remitted to the State
.thin 15 calendar days after the vendor has been notified by ADOC of the
:~erage number of inmates. For example, if on the 5th day of June ADOC

provides the awarded vendor with the average number of May inmates. The
awarded vendor must remit to ADOC within the next 15 days.
Question 41.
How far down do we go with the subcontractors that you want us to list?
Answer to Question 41.
The bidder should list all the subcontractors that are providing any kind of work
on the phone systems.
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Question 42.
Can I get a little more clarification on y'all's plans for debit, how you're going to do
it? Introuduction of debit cards or the introduction of interfacing with commissary
funds?
Answer to Question 42.
That will be addressed in another ITS.
Question 43.
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Are you using any type of debit calhng today .
Answer to Quesiton 44.

No.
Question 45.
Id like to have an integrated debit process
I understand you to say tha\~O~ :~ng via a debit and have something other
so that inmates can pay for elr
than a debit cartd?
Answer to Question 4~.
d d b't process is not a requirement of this ITS, if
'd' g an mtegrate e I
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Yes, but provi I~
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t. 'f the vendor does not provide I , grea .
the vendor provides It, grea , I
Question 46.
r calling that's generated -under the debit
What is the amount of revenue 0
process today?
Answer to Question 46.
It is negligible.

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DEPARTMENT or rINANCE

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STATE or ALABAMA

MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA

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IN THE MATTER OF:

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PREBIDDERS CONFERENCE

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TA497 TELEPHONE SERVICES PAYING INMATE

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PROCEEDINGS taken in the above-styled

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cau •• in the State Purcha.inq Auditorium,

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A.l ab_a Department ot Finance, 100 North

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Union Street, RSA Union Suite 250,

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Montqomery, Alabama, on Wedne.day, April 4,

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2012, commencinq at approximately 10:00 a
and reported by Gwendolyn P. Timbie,

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Certified Court Reporter and Commissioner for

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the State ot Alabama at Larqe.

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DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES
Mon tgomery, Alabama
(334) 263-0261 or ,~-

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name ~s Pat Antle ,

this morning.

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wi1l, you know , make a -- in case I

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can't read your writing.

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Mr. Art Bess from ISD , Mr.
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Brown from DOC , and Mr . Seebert in

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your wireless devices.

the back from DOC as well.

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that you not use themi but, you know,

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ask that you don't wander in and

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out.

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does and we feel like we need a

If you would, make sure that
all companies have been signed in and

represented on the sign-in sheets .
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then , you

know, you're not allowed to bid.

DlINN, KING & ASSOCIATES
Montgomery, Alabama.
1) 263-0261 or (800) 359-800 1

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document.

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should have one.

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HontgOJDery, AlabMIJa

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required ~or tbi. bid, but tbi. i .

9

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oan.ral contractor'. licen •• i .

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juat •

atandard

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Xt qo •• out

10

12
procedural

13

KIt.

for •• ?

questions

CaD Z

fALTOll:

and like the delivery , you know ,

14

terms.

Some do apply .

You know ,

tbis first page .

Just

If yoU dop't .in

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standing up .
HR . rALTOH :

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Julius Talton of

Talton comaunicatio DS •

If they're -- you know,

16

they're not applicable , you can l •• ve

17

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a .sk a question

like the price. valid for acceptance

13

11

there .

12

10

every bid .e put out ba. th ••• on

11

9

them blank ; but , you know --

18

MR . TALTON :

19

MS . ANTLE :

if

That'. ay question .

Yeah .

Xf they are

20

required -- usually like the delivery

about tbese -- the delivery, the

21

and terms , we

terms , the -- you know, are these

22

blank ,

all -- are these all applicable to

23

terms, which is like lO-day, you

Just -- on t he first page

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Montgomery , Alabama

(331) 263-0261 or (800) 359-8001

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MS. ANXLE :

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MS . ANXLE :

All right.

At this

_ i ll turn it over to our

time, l' .....

panel .

We'll start with Mr . Art

BesS .

HR. BESS:

I

guess what we'll do

read through the current

uestions .
1

And if we -- if we have

answer ready , we'll give you an

Iswer .

detailed information for the ITB
specification from the vendor that is

.p.c~~ic.tion.

that indicate

Thie •• ama to indicate

IDS ?

(No response)

.5

that the State ia only lookinq for

9

questions

information .

7

Thank you .

do certain thinqa or provide certain

6

You can .

awarded vendor muat or ehall or will

5

't applY?

MS . ANTLE :

for

4

Just·

the Stat. '. expectation that the

8

lOt . TALTON :

many ITS

3

'ea ve it blank

but ....

If we don ' t, we'll say that

so .
There will be a -- Pat will
sending out a -- or posting a list
all the questions with the
tcial answers later.
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g01llery, Alabama

0261 or (800) 359-8001

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chosen as the highest bidder and

11

awarded the contract.

12

Is it the State's preference

13

that vendors simply provide an answer

14

indicating that we have understood

15

and will comply with each

16

specification or that each vendor

17

provide detailed information and/or

18

samples for each specification in

19

order of the bid?

20

Answer to Question 1:

A

21

vendor, by returning a signed bid ,

22

indicates that the ITB requirements

23

are understood and the vendor will
DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES

Montgomery , Alabama

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req u ireme nt • .
requ ireme nt o~

1.

A

than the required xeferences .

2

t he

Quest~on

3:

Re9ardin9 page

3
4

Question 2 :
.
3
customer References ,
2 , sect.1.0n
,
nside r requiring
O
".ill the state c

tomer references,
additional cUS
a listing of all state
including
d as prime contractor
accounts serve
ars (with an
during the past four ye
of whether the account is
indication
This
r past customer)?
O
II curren t
uirement cou~d provide
additional req

•
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Friends and F&mi1y. in research of

5

the current vendor, we found the

6

fo~~owinq :

7

appeared to incur & fee of $5 and up,

8

depending on 1ocation and amount

9

funded .

Deposits by Western Union

Prepaid account refunds

10

appeared to incur a fee of $5.

11

prepaid account

12

web appear to incur a fee of $9.50.

13
14

fund~ng

Is the State

A

$50

by IVR and

ab~e

to

conf~rm

these amounts?

15

In addition t

we respectfu11y

17

for

18

that they

poli.cies to end-users prior to them

20

vendor's service history across their

request two additiona1 requirements

19

a more accurate picture of the

16

being charged and, B t vendors to

21

detail their responses how they

22

identify ALDOC end-users in order

23

apply appropriate fees at the tim.

entire customer base.

Answer to Question 2:

lddi tional customer references

will

,t be required, and no addi tional
edit will be given for listing more

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,tgo111ery, AlahaIIJa

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d~sc~ose

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Stat. con.~d.r

2
3

vendor to provide th1a certification

4

aub •• quent to bid aub$1 •• ion but

5

the

amendinq ~hi. r.quir.~.nt to .~low a

prior to .w.rd?
An.",.r to Qu •• tlon . :

6
7
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the seae.

de clines t

addition .. l

requ

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.dd

B.S .

This

Phones -- Pay Telephones.

section states that the vendor may

Regarding page

12

petition the State for relocation of

and 8.6.2,

13

the telephone in situations where t l

14

revenue generated does not cover th

15

expenses.

certificat~on,

Inmate Rates.

Seotion 10.7, Unprofitable Pay

11

.

,

6,

10

ireme nts

Question" :

3,

Question 5 :

9

tWO

SUggested

for

this section.

1

ia .ti~l beinq coneid.red .

8

Thia

In section 8.6 . 2 ,

the

vendor to hold a
State requires a
certificate of public convenience and

"t y to provide inmate phone

16

Would the State consider

17

changing the language to state

18

relocation or removal?

necess~

service.

March 20 .

The ITB was released on

An d , Unfortunately,

submissions for the April Public
Service Commission docket closed that
day.

Approval from the May docket

should occur on or about May 3.
VN, KING " ASSOCIATES

'ontgomery, AJ.aba.ma
63-0261 or (800) 359-8001

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I guess yes.

20

Question 6:

Page 22/ Sec

21

11.2.10, Directories.

22

consider allowing a free call tc

23

from the pay phone in place of

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Will the

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r8qu ~ring

An S wor
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Di r ectorJ.e

Questio n 7 :
11 , 2 . 14 . 2 , Use of

exist ing p a y phones,

7

more

a nd TOO unit s

f

f

en c losures,

8

th e

from the

9

vendors.

p~ant

cab~e

facilit~e 8

~s8ue a

a ~tes

or no

ava ~ ~able?

The

Answer to Que s t ion 8A:
inside wirinq th a t

each phone is

10

connected to is owned by the State,

ex i sting p a y phon es,

11

with the exception of the

a nd TDD units f r om the

12

J . O . Davis ,

Fountain , and Atmore

13

facilities .

Converting these

14

facilities to state-owned wiring is

15

currently being studied.

rh e

current vendor is considered a
bu s iness

Are there any

And C :

5

S t~ te a l l ow

cur re nt v e ndo r?
Answ e r to Quest i on 7 :
0

or 1eas ed?

0

e n c l os ur es,

purc ha se

current v e ndor that can b e a c qu i red

4

secti.on

e xplain what cabli.ng i.s own e d by the

that have major

En c l os ures .
purc h ase

22,

Pa q e

E x is t i n g
th e

the State

2

6:

6

Will

wi~l

3

to Questio n

are requ ~re d .

5

Question B :

1

directorias~

.

transaction between th e
Existing pay phones,

Bo~man ,

Answer to Part B:

The

enclosures , and TDD units currently

16

installed and in good working order

17

current vendor does not own inside

18

cabling that each phone is connecte 1

19

to.

are acceptable.

Question 8 :

From page 26 ,

Section 11.3 . 4 . 8, Cabling.
Is the inside
Question A :
wiring that each phone is connected
to owned by the state?

118

18
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20

Answer to Part C :

21

is not aware of major cable issues

22

limitations of plant facilities

23

available.

DUNN, KING , ASSOCIATES

'UNN, KING & ASSOCIATES

Montgomery, Alabama
263-02 61 or (800)

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Additiona~

Question 9 :
J

added products and service.

2
question .

3

, .
advise .I. ...

4

Wi l l

va1ue

General

the State pleaso

thera is an i nt erest .in

corresponding impact on evaluation

5

a nd scoring for additional features

that will enha n ce t h e

inmate

telephone system functionality
excuse me

-- inmate t e l ep hone system ,

ITS in quot es -- or in parenth ese s
fun c tionality ,

security while

automating to reduc e

For

example,

staff r eso urc es?

A,

int e rf ace the

1
2

~ncr.a •• the provision or

etoraQe required fro~ 90 day. to the

3

len q th of the con tr act, b ec au •• this

4

would aid i nve stiQationa without

5

impacting financial/par diem o~fera.

6

~f

the se features and

7

processes are de Sired , will the State

8

consider making these a

9

and/or assign bid evaluation waiting?

10

requi rement

Answer to Question 9 :

11

Addit i onal added -- value adde d

12

products will not be con3idered or

13

evaluated during th e

ITS with a vendor management and

14

Question 10 :

trust systems for automatic

15

bid process .
Attachment C .

Revenue summary.

population of inmate information

16

without dual entry and offer the

17

per diem offer, would the State

18

provide some additional data

19

regarding existing calling patterns~

inmate the option of purchasing
ca~~ing

time and commissary items

which will benefit the state as well

Part S f page 27, Section

11 . 3 . 5.4 , Storage Requirements .
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Montgomery, .A1abama
263-0261 or (800)

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The nUmber of calls by

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as the inmate .

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20

In order to provide the best

jurisdiction and month in addition to

22

the revenue and minutes already

23

provided?

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Data

And answer to P art B :

ca~~ i n g b ro )ten

1

int e r s tat e?

2

on inmate phone restrictions ia not

3

co11ected.

InterLAT.A
versus

int: r astate

of reve n. ue
percentage
The overall
versus prepaid ?
' 8 colle c ted
that ...
to ouestion 10 :
An s wer
be
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d ta ~i.ll not
call.l. ng
a
AdditJ.onal
ided by the State .
prov
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Gener~l inmate
out .by

Question
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telephone system accesS .
rules for
e state utilize
DoeS th
restrictions to tho
anY disciplinary
system beyond those
i nm ate telep h o n e

described in ~R #431?
On avera g e ,

i n mates a r

hoW' many

e restricted from

using the

In particu.lar,

teleph o n es?
administrative segregation,
.

disciplinary segregat~on ,
other rs s triction

and any

defined outside AR

#431 at any given time.
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Answer to ouest~on

Inmate phone usage may also be
restricted under AR 403 and AR 414 .

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5

p ho ne XTB appears

to have a

6

regarding an a dditional service.

7

phone can provide electronic mo ney

8

transfer service s

statement

9

8.6 . 4.

The

under Soction

Are you able to clarify for

10

And if i t

11

me i f this is an option?

12

is not,

13

clar i fy that within the ITB.

14

how can we

-- how we can

Answer to Question 12 :

The

15

electronic transfers referred to in

16

the ITB are funds paid directly to

17

the inmate phone vendor designated

18

for the purchase of inmate phone

19

time , an account set up and

20

maintained by the vendor .

21

not represent fund transfers into the

22

ADOC financial system.

23

A company J Pay --

DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES
Montgomery, Alabama

DUNN, KING ~ ASSOCIATES
Hon tgo11lery, AlabaIDi1.
1) 263-0261 or (800)

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Question 1.2 :

4

"rhese do

capita~

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2_

20

c e pit e1 p - a - Y

. ervi ces
transfers

1

_ _ currently p e rforms
.

me.

3

page 4 .

4

of Alab ama is exempt from paying

5

sales tax.
environment,

7

mo ney

o£ funds f rom f a mily and

phone system.

Given the fact

Question 13:

paying the sales tax, not the State .

per diem rate wi 11

9

will the

"n

W1

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State consider requ1r1ng a

new eqUipment,

10

including

whi.la

he State receives new
assuring that t
°

from any vendor that is

t

awa rded the bid.

Answer to Question 12 :

The

State will not consider this

All installed equipment

requirement.
must be

operationa~ .

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?63-0261 or (800)

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the inmates are not exempt from
paying sales tax?
Answer to Question 14:
~nmate

PSC under Docket 15957.

pay phones are governed by the

14

true

ompetitive bid with a level

equ~pmen

the inmates would be

13

This will provide a

'ng f'ald for all vendors,
p 1 aY ~
....

Xn a debit calling

12

inmate telephones and pay

C

Xt is noted that the State

~s

11

to

inclusive of the incumbent ,

Question 14 , Bid Xnatructions,

8

that this is a bid and the highest

open

Excuse

6

~or el.ctron~c

. dividual inma te accounts
to 1n
related to the inmate
which are not

telephones?

Question 13 -- no .

2

friond s

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18

Question 15:

15

transition to a new vendor,

16

number of inmates in custody using a

17

new vendor system

18

day to day,

19

per diem amount owed by a new

20

vendor .

21

During the

wi~~

the

change from

which wou~d affect the

Will the State describe how

22

the per diem amounts will be prorated

23

during the transition from the

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incumben

Answer

to Question 15:

per diem for the

facility ,

0

t ' g on
star ~n

statement, however,

2

callinq types wh ere the vendor would

3

not receive the re venue such as

4

The

state ~i~l charge
f inmates at each

average number

~nc1udea

1

neW vendor?

to a

t

l - SOO - XXX - XXXX .
P1ease confirm that the ADOC

5

the day of

mu1tip1e

6

understands that commissions would

ITS , page 5,

7

not be paid on callinq types listed

4 indicates that th e re
section S . 9 ,

8

where the vendor does not receive the

9

revenues .

acti 'Va ticn .

Question 16:

are 400 pay telephones.

How e ver ,

the

attachments list only 309 .
Wi~l t he State confirm that

only the 309 pay phones are required

Answer to Question 17 :

10
11

answer is not available at this

12

That

time .

MR . BRANTLEY:

I.t appears we've

or provide the listing of locations

13

for the other 91 pay telephones ?
No
Answer to Question 16 :

14

missed that question right there

15

somehow.

representation

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1,

made that this

There are approximately

400 pay telephones.

Question 17 :

MR. BESS:

I ' l l have to call th

section 8 . 14.2

17

Question 17.

18

current rates being charged for bot

19

information is complete and
accurate .

16

inmate and pay telephone service b :

20

the existing

Please provide the

vendor~

provides a list of calling types that

21

are to be considered commissionable

22

included in the ITB at 8 . 6 . 2.

23

telephone rates must be reasonabl

public pay phone revenue .
7NN, KING & ASSOCIATES

Montgomery, Alabama
263-0261 or (BOO)

This

Current inmate rates are

DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES

Montgomery, Alabama

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1

2
2

3

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4

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4

5

5

6
the tax •• ,

6

7I

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11

12

surcharge. ,
may be

or any

mandated by

taX1nq aU

15

8

9

P

total

f...

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charged to

t

grOSS

h

•

the

7

daily inmate population and

8

that

ns .
revenue calculatl.O

provide i t to the vendor

9

Quoation 20.

w~ll

Section '11.1 . 1

10

.tat•• that the DOC will work with

11

t h e ve ndor on the mi x or pay
telephone types

13

that the unprofitable phon •• can b.

not appll.cabla to

14

relocated, not just removed, unle ••

15

calculatl.Ons are

12

GrOSS revenue

Answer;

t h o y are

par d1em rates

Question 19:

sectl.on 8.14.5

OMm1SS1.0ns

w111 be

C
s ta te. that the
the average
ted by multiplY1nq
ca 1 cu l .
custody for
'nmates in AVOC
number of ...

vendor's per d1em

16

Sect~on

re q u~red

10 . 1 .tate.

for other rea.ons

Wi1l the Stat. confirm the

17

n umbe r of p ay phones that can b.

18

a d j u s t e d as well?

19

An s we r

to

Queat~on

20:

~he

20

numb e r of pub lic pay p hone a may

the number of
rate, mult1plie d by

21

c hang e as n ee d e d wi t h

the bil11ng month.

22

th e se rvi ce d e live ry ma n a g er of the

Please pravl. d e the specl.fic

23

Informatio n

the mon th by the

days

I

tax · 11ke

.; neluded in
1 not be end-user WI. 1

16
7

othar

thority and

13

14

aooount inmate r.l •••• and intake

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DUNN, KING Ii ASSOCIATES

Montgomery, Alabama
(334) 263-0261 or

the approval of

Ser v ~cea D~ v ia10n

DUNN , KI NG & ASSOCIATES

and the

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.,t ate

1

Qu estio n 2 1 :

Sec t io n

comm iss i o n
. .
st3tes t h at th e
4 1 2
t yp e , pe r
wi l l be reporte d b y c al~
a nd acco un t ing c ode
p h o n e, location ,
th e comm iss i o n i s b ase d on
b ee3 Use

10 .

th e p e r

b e kn Own
th e DOC.

lim i tin9 the bond to o n e ye ar 's

5

es timated per diem/commissi o n' .

6

tota l?

on~ y

7

accept a majority, i . e . , 85 to 90

B

p e rcent, o f

9

in an up-front annual payme nt wi th an

Th e r e is a possibi~ity that
which are

cal c ul a t e d fr o m u s age , broken out by
the s p eci f i e d criteria ,
match th e
I s

Will the Sta te consi d e r

3

the c o unt fr o m

we g e t

t h e mo nthly r ep o r t s,

c o mmi ss ion d o llars .

4

d
whi c h will
d iem me th o ,
af t e r

little more than f o ur mi lli o n in

2

entity b ei n g se r ved .

wi.ll n o t

commis s ion reports .
this acceptable to the

wi ll the DOC a.lter the
DOC , or

Alternativ e ly , wi ll the State

the per d iem/comm iss i o ns

10

annual true-up as an alt e rnative to

11

the commission bond?
Answer to Que s t i o n 22 :

12

13

$5 mil1ion bond requirement stands.
And I be1ieve that is

14
15
16

reporting criteria in the bid?

The

a~~

the

qu e stions that we have .
MS . ANTLE:

So now

we'~~

open up

17

to any other questions that you guys

18

Answer to Question 21 :

have.

Commission reports do not apply to

19
the ADOC .
Question 22:

I

SHAPIRO :

Josh Shapiro with J

think you clarified .

However, the

Pay .

wanted to make sure -- just because I

22

flew out here, I

23

sure .

just want to make

state is currently only receiving a
DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES

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) 263-0261 or

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The ITB

requires a commission bond in the
amount of $5 million .

MR.

DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES
Alabama
359 - 8001

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8 . 6 . • , yoU had
the tund i n9

2

3

4

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4

lOOJcs

5

ans".red

li).:e you

so .... 'r.
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7

HS . ,ANTL£ :

8

8

other questions ?

Any

9

JuliuS 'falton ,

HR . TALTON :

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good .

Thank you.

6

5

that i n nin.·

COJntQunicatiOns .

consider

t

would the sta •

11

12

• collUDission
Irrevocable bank
letter of credit?

letter of credit?
BROWN :

the difference .

.I

Julius,

don ' t know

I ' ll have to take a

look at that .

MR , TALTON :

Okay .

Thank you.

If you could answer that .

In the fees that were laid
out ,

you have an amount for lobby --

for 475 for a lobby kiosk.

Are you

going to allow the vendor to put in
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'334) 263-0261 or (800)

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with the winninq v.ndor on .hether

•• 'r. qoinq to do that or not.
thi. bid,

~t

ror

i. not a require.ent .

There'. certainly the potentia1 to

QO

that direction onc. w. Qet • winninQ
bidder.
d~.cu ••

And w. can . i t down and
how we do that .
But

part

o~

the

~or

th~.

bid,

~t'.

not

.p.ci~ic.tion •.

Xt'. not a

HR . TALTON :

13

IfJ

If}'

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requirement , but X mean -- in other

14

instead of

MR .

MR. BROWN:

10

bond . a bank.

TAlton

lobby kioak.a?

words,

15

had the fee in there.

16

that you cou1d put in a 10bby kiosk.

17

MR.

the question -- X mean, you

X :lust a.sumed

Well, X mean, we're

BROWN :

We're 90in9

18

moving that direction.

19

to put a banking XTB out.

20

sure how we're going to carve these

21

pieces up.

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23

So ..

MR . TALTON :
pay phones.

Question about the

The way the commission

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it. ' .
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speci fY

wo u ld b e

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t he

d id rt ' t

the ti me

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wi th t he 1

pay rtl ent •

p eriod
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"ou~d. tha t

60 days -- i t
.
rom th e t1me that

d 15 day s f

yoU sub mitt e d

s ure

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here .

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day of t he month, we ' ll k n ow what the

4

dai1y aver a g e inmate populat i on i •.

we put t h a t requ 1 reme nt 1 n

i~

Z can te11 you ,

a rre a rs from that?
Do we have a p a yme nt
MR . BROWN :

sche dul e in here?

Any ITB

Let me ask

MR . TALTON :
.

for ex ample , we JUs

t

like ,

closed March.

Right.

MR . BROWN:
MR . TALTON:

March j u st ended .

Would the payment due for the

inmate -- for the number of inmates
in Harch be due in May , or would i t

be due in April ?

Well , again, I'm not

IN, KING & ASSOCIATES

'ontgomery, Alabama
63-02 61 or ( 800)

on th e lae t

So on the 31st of Ma rch, at 5

6

o'clock th a t

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av e rage daily population for March

8

is .

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y o ur population

running
Wou ld th a t s till b e
figures .
as 60 days in
on the same t i mel ine

MR . BROWN ;

1

5

f o lloll g e nerallY

me nti o ne

zt

lIIon tb .

cl o •• of

r eallY

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£011 0 "1 n .,.

night, we know wh at the

And we'11 make that available .

MR .

TALTON :

X gue ss my qu e stion
once we know,

10

was , from that point,

11

how long do we have to make that

12

payment?

13

MR .

BROWN :

Well,

14

MR . BRANTLEY :

~t's

not

specified in here

15

~f

'It i.s .

I t ' s ri.ght

16

here.

17

for i.nmate phones must be remitted to

18

the State

19

after the vendor has been

20

ADOC of the average number of

21

inmates .

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23

Sect~on

8 . 14 . 15.

with~n

Commiss~ons

15 calendar days
not~fied

by

So, for example , i f on t h e

5th day of -- May finishes .
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MR .

that would be very

That ' .

BRANTLEY :

the

you know ,

not what

It says i t ' s going

bid says .

we're going to tell you

Tha.t' s correc t .

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Le SS than 30 d a y S

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MR. .

12

wh eth e r

13

what you ' r e

14

the commission rate available to pay

15

beca use you haven't calculated i t

16

within lS days of the end of the

17

month.

MR . TALTON:
MR.

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;

benef ic!.al.

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MR . BRANTLEY :

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4

the pay ph o n e s ,

t i me f r ame that we do for

9

phone?

10

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the same

6

c a s e , we
than th e pay
f a ster

i f we have

you know ,

vendors would

5
" Qu ld b e paying

think all the

:I

TALTON :

4

th e
So i n tha t

parti Cular

MR .

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to

c h e ck to CO

xp e c t

will b e up t o us .

2

a fte r
11\8

MR . TA LTON :

6

1

50 i t 'S n o t

us ,

5

t he

a v e r age n uJ11be r

BY 15 d a y ·

inlll a t eS ,

that , ,,0 e

4

9

.. the

number f or May ..

yO U

Right .

BROWN :

And I

think

bidder , wet 11 wo rk
.
The information w111

i t ' s for the inmate s'
BROWN :

i t' s

phones.

I t doe s n ' t

matter

commi s sion rate or -saying is , y o u won ' t

have

with the winning
something out.

withi.n 30 days
Pa yment
.
typical
or within 45 d a yS 15 a
I think that
busi n ess tran s action.

be available .

we can

18

After we tell yoU

MR , BROWN :

You've qot 15
what that number is .
If i t takes us 30
days to pay us .
that
days to give you that number

..

MR,

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phones .

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MR .

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TALTON :

BROWN:

That ' s right on the

On the payment

TALTON :

It wou1d be nice to

have the payment

on the same

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DUNN, KING " ASSOCIATES
Mon tg011lezy, Alabama
(334) 2 63 - 02 61 or (800) 35.9-110

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pay phones .

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It ' s 15 days .

MR .

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set i t up like that .

MR , BRANTLEY :

That's not going to happen .

Montgomery, Alabama

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p.,y,Ule nt Cycle
I t 'S not .

MR. BN OWN :

not.

to be in secor d ana e wi th

going

It '.

I t 'S

t h is ITB.

t h e bid - -

Yo u're Asking -- I

HR. TALTON :
be c le a r.
t

j u st want

You' r e

asking

0

o n th e inmate to be

for the p a yment

1

any k1nd of work on the phone

2

s ystems.

3

anything for you - -

4

for the same month s .

putting the phone s in , if they're

S

doing the cab1ing -- if th ey' re doing

6

any of that, you need to 1ist th e m .

7

8
JJluch fast e r

MR . TALTON :

Ri ght.
_ _ than o n the p a y

if they're

didn't know how

I

Okay .

far d eep you wanted that .

--

MR . BROWN :

So if they're doing

And just to

9

c1ar~fy

again

10

about exact1y how we respond to the

11

ITB.

12

about

13

informat~on

14

back .

Bow far down do we

15

subcontractors,

go with the subcontractors that you

16

those thi.ngs.

17

separate section .

company providing the telephones?

18

don't do anything within the body of

Bow far down are you

19

the ITB to say acknowledged,

20

or read and complied,

21

like that .

22

different sub set, 1 guess, or

23

section to answer those specific

MR .

TALTON :

phones?
MR .

Riqh t.

BRANTLEY:

Let's see .

MR . TALTON :

How far

down -- y o u mentioned listing

subcontractors .

I

wa nt us to list?

The wiring?

mean , down to the

looking for us to dig down for our

subcontractors?

MR . BROWN :

I

think you need to

ist all your subs that are providinq
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ontgomery, Alabama.
,3-0261 or (800)

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.

If

there i.s

there i.s

1ess than ten sections of
you want us to

You want a

1~st

prov~de

of the

the references,

and

Those are 1isted in a

Okay .

And then we

agreed,

or anything

But we just create a

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answered

said --

believe

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Of

hoW you ' d

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Mr . BesS

that question

'
bY SJ. gning t.he
.
yoU are stating'
n to bJ.d ,
i n"i ta tio
wi th all of the
do comply
that yOU
requirements of
' £ica tion s a nd
specJ.
not necessary to say
I t is
the lTD .
.
section
section th1 S,
we comply ... i th
. n wh ateve r.
that , sectJ.o
.
I unders tand that.
.

. in that

ear1J,sr .

MR, TALTON:

for example ,
1'her e

I

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10.1 .2 .

some

Pay ph ones.

.
It t S ask1ng to give us a

d escription of how

we handle out of

coins in
the box or cash - - you know ,
There's a
the boX , that type thing .
requiremen t.
question .

We have to answer that

And I ' m just asking the

kind of format you'd like.
MR. BRANTLEY :

That is the

awarded vendor only .
your bid .

It's not with

You know , as you read

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t.hrough thi s, be carefu~ to ~ook for
"the awarded vendor ."

that term.,
B eca u s e

that's not -- we' re not
We ' re

,
expect1ng that with your bid .

e xp ec ti.ng t hat to come after the
fact,

wh e n

i t ' s awarded .
Yeah.

MR . BROWN:

We don ' t

8

di s tinction .

9

from all the bids .

That's a

expect this

work those

We ' ~l

w~nning

c~ear

10

when we get a

11

we get an awarded bidder .

13

14

That's

MR. TALTON :

12

bidder -- when

Thank

a~1 .

you .

MR . KENNEDY :

15

IC Solutions.

16

Can I

Mike Kennedy with

get a

~itt~e

more

17

clar~f~cation

18

debit, how you're going to do it?

19

Introduction of debit cards or th

20

introduction of interfacing with

21

commissary funds?

22

23

MR.

on

BROWN:

yla~lls

plans

fo~

Mike, We're not

to go through that.

We're not

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th' t

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going

HR .

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7

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J(E!NNED Y :

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lDentiOned?
thing yoU

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}lJ'ld that wi l.l

Right.

HR . BRO"", '

we ' v e got to

h ,,6 th i ngs .
handle t o .
ed this down
str.l.PP
t -- " e

~ igur e

ou

JIleaJ'l ,

I

to phones

to paY phones --

for

2
3

go t

4

1

th e inmates.
HR.

6
7

8

9

yesterday to Pat .
MR .

BROWN :

MR. ORSO:

I think that wa s

Pat.

I

understoo d we

had unti.l today_

MS . ANTLE :

Any that 1 got, 1

forwarded to you guys.

MR.

I

BRANTLEY :

haven't received

them .
MS.

ANTLE:

10

ltENNEDY:

To Pat?

MR.

think I

printed out

everythi.ng.

11

I

BROWN :

We haven't had a

12

chance to see anythi.ng from GTO .

13

tri.ed to -- we answered everythi.ng we

ther questions?

14

had seen.

Robert Or sO with GTO .

15

MR . ORSO :

16

MS . ANTLE:

it.
All right .

MS . ANTLE '

MR . ORSO'

Any

Thank you .
O

' n questions that
If we sent 1
.
d today I how is that
were not addres se
To be addressed
going to be handled?

Okay .
Do you have your

17

questions now to ask?

18

You can go

ahead and ask them now.

19

in the wri tten

We

MR . ORSO:

We11, some of them

LE ;

r thought we did.

20

have already been asked .

MR. BRO WN ;

When did you send

21

probably prefer if you could just

22

address them in the written -- in

23

your written response.

MS.

them in I

ANT

Robert?

MR. ORSO ;

E-mailed them

DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES
Montgomery,
14) 263-0261 or

So I would

That would 1

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Alabama

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Jd8 .

r

LJ"a "je
IJ'l'l'L!: !

MS .

<r

..

got some .

I

IDsa n ,

don't

2

I

I

apolo9.i ze •

3

But - -

theJD over.

4

us a written document within a week,
ri.ght?

MS .

don't have i.t on my e-mai.1 ,

5

aGeing anY '
RSO :
HR·

I

the ques

7

ab~e

to answer

A11 right.

MR . ORSO :

If you'd

MS . ANTLE:

~ike,

before

just

9

a-m.ail on a

10

my -- just to make sure.

d te of when

11

won't be

12

after today .

13

to receive your e-mail for some

14

hs d aS Jc9

reason --

And I

about dates.

act uall )" I

the

a

tions .,er e due.

the next sect
document.

then, you

8

1

coup e

onded to your la s t
date --

1.

of

d Y'ou a

questJ.onB

r asP

if

them.

We l l ,

0

.,here r
.

had an a-mail.

know, I won't be

6

I don't reca.ll.

NOw,

Ri.ght .

ANTLE:

So that was

bid
.
10n of the

So

MS . ANTLE:

You did.

' 1 that I
the same e-ma1

Well, I

MS . ANTLE :

I'1~

ab~e

qo back

and check
But you

to submit any questions
X mean,

MR. BROWN :

if X've

Yeah.

fai~ed

Thi.s may be

16

d i dn't 1 7

HR . ORSO:

15

I answered that ,

you 1eave,

17

But that's

r don f t have it.
I ' l l go
But yes , of course .

now, Robert.

18

sent to the

apologize .

the best chance to ask the questi.on

I

MS . ANTLE :

You won't be a110wed

19

to submi.t them after today -- after

20

this meeting i.s adjourned.

don I t know why

back and check my -HR . ORSO :
fi{,

You're going to give

KING , ASSOCIATES

(ontgomery,
63-0261 or

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MR. ORSO :

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MS . ANTLE :

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That's fi.ne .
So are you sure you

don't want to -- you don't remember
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written ou

t

whar e

MS . ANTLE ;

1

1:t

wa s

in the

eJD

2

spec ifi.cati.on attachment?

3

have th

5

MR . BRANTLEY :

MS . ANTLE :

That ..,oul d

HR. BESS :

be on all

conuttissions.
All c o mmissions .

HR . ORSO:

HR. BESS:

.,~

11

you don't have

i t?

MR .

It was -- I

ORSO :

thi.nk i t
I t was

12

was one of the attachments.

13

about four documents that were
posted.

15

MS . ANTLE :

There should have

been an -- three attachments for

19

listings of phones, pay phones and

terms and

20

pay phones and the inmate -- pay

It's one of the

21

phone locations and the inmate prison

22

locations.

23

document with the PSC ruling on

standard terms and

"ontgomery, Alabama
~3-0261 or (800)

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10

Oh ,

MS . ANTLE :

9

specifications.

respond and
Are we to

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:onditions was the name of the --

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don ' t have the page

1:

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conditions document?

........ , •
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............,

8

ORSO:

been an attachment for these bid

All revenues, I

£ill out the standar d

attachments.

MR .

16

believe it sayS.
HR . ORSO :

7

What page is that?

14

cOnuttisSions?

OJcay.

What section was

that in -- referred to?

6

iruD,s te

there

somothing in there?

4

covere d .
. . stX'ati"Ve fee.
the adJD 1n1
on
that
to c~arifY
t wa nte d
8 . 10 • t ;u s
fee -adJDinistra ti ve
5 p erce nt
the 1 .
.
both coin
commisS10ns,
• on aU
that s
just on the
is that
and inmate , or

1:s

There should have

And then you had a

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c orre c t ,

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HR . BESS :

But y o U

're saying

MS . ANTLE :
ehill

"a ll •

>,S .

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--

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v~c

JOHNSON :

k

Johns o n of

i
..

t he

nine-Poll

f

even i f some
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document

complete An

we n eeded to

didn't - -

~re you talking about

ANTLE :
.

invitat~on to

the

d return,

the items

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6
7

centuryLink .
referring to
he'S
I believe
that you said
ge

4

8

MR.

TALTON:

10
11

12

MS. ANTLE:
MR.

writs this question .

i t has standard

Uh-huh .
That may be what

TALTON:

MS . ANTLE :

Oh,

okay .

Okay.

I'm

sorry.
quest~on

Now, wbat's your
about it?

MR. ORSO:

Is that to be

responded to --

MR.

BROWN :

Does that refer you

to an attachment to f i l l out?

I didn't actually

No .

The nine

terms and conditions .

14

So I ' m not sure

15

MR . ORSO:

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MR . ORSO :

Right .

page -- on page two,

9

13

bid document?

bid?

MS. ANTLE:

In addition to the

Well,

yes .

'these are

which document .

HR. TALTON:

If

On page two of that

I

can just add.

document, I

had

difficulty finding the document too.

No.

The

:ta te --

HS. ANTLE:

The invitation to

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ntqomery, Alabanul
1-0261 or (800)

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filling out this invitation to bid.

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MR. ORSO:

Al.1 right.

This is a

.

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long question here .

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vendors have adopted a process of

22

Yeah.

HR. TALTON:

" ....' .........,,,.

our standard terms and conditions for

20

Of this?

HS . ANTLE:

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reclassifying cal.l.s such as

23

promotional. calls that are not

But certain

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pre paid accounts before any calls are

2

r eceiv e d and services are provided,

3

and masquerading the fact that they

4

sa y they're offered, doe sn' t contain

6

These assessments are as high
fees.
as 32 percent of the d eposit amount,

a part of

7

without knowing whether the

subject to th e
thiS contract are
e four
1
rateS on pa g
ma~imum allowab a

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local or interstate

9

othe r

5

correctional

facilities as

of the ITB.

ca~~

is

or some

cal~

type of call .
Please conform that if the

10

fund~nq

That'S our intent.

Yas.

All calls

11

call party is

,, •'l~ b e affected

12

account , the vendor can only charge a

13

nominal

14

page four of the ITB for

15

MR. BROWN:

only assess the actual taxes and

16

approved regu1atory assessments at

large

17

the time of the ca11 -- at the time

to call

18

the ca11 is comp1eted .

19

P~ease

by

th e rate.

So the c ap of 4.75
applies.
Another long one .
inmate

number

In

c alling environment, a
of calls are completed

parties who

today

I

5

have prepaid accounts.

regulatory assessments at the
the deposit when funding these
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fee as outlined on
and

depos~t

confirm that vendors

20

may not charge a rounded or

and

21

amount, but must charge the

time of

22

tax percentage on the

23

cost per jurisdiction of the

Certain vendors have adopted a

process of charging for taxes

serv~ce

a prepaid

b~ended
actua~

actua~

rated
ca~~.

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between before and after .
MR. BROWN :

Apparent1y there are

vendors who do i t pre -- X mean, X
don't know what's the standard
That

~eve1

of detai1 with

5

practice.

6

the vendors is not something that the

7

State has been invo1ved in in the

But thi. i_

8

past .

docket that ",e

9

What we 're

that

·ayinq ,

PSC

w.

put these fees down

10
11

and the inmates on top of what

13

they ' re already

14

to be applied

auch .oney we can charge the fami1ies

12

they ' re -__ whether they are
account.
deposit
• t the tixn. oE

because we're trying to 1imit bow

"all.

15

MR. CRSC :

16

MR . BROWN :

pay~nq

for the phone

Yeah .
Xf we need to amend

17

thia and actually say that, or do we

is

18

ne.d to look at the PSC and find out

actually takes P
rAted, and the actual percentaqe for

19

what their policy is and do not -- X

20

mean,

21

already have to do whatever the PSC

22

puts out?

23

authority.

or at the tim. the ca

11 is --

lace and the call

that call, based on that
urisdiction , is applied to the
.11 __ to the cost of the call.

There's a big difference
KING ~ ASSOCIATES

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wouldn't a l l

the vendors

They're the regulatory

DUNN, KING' ASSOCIATES
Montgomery, Alabama

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' -e supposed to .

W •
e

Right.
HI< And wou~dn · t that
BRAN'TLEY :
MR .
.
.i n
'v-a qot J,.n th e r e
that we
d o cument
would make
people that
sc b e the
P

the

d e c i sJ.o n?
.

tha t

We I I ,

MR - OR50'
really

i.s on

vendor haS a

taX engine

5

MR.

6

that practice?

I

ORSO :

can ' t

We don't know.

-n their

9

.1

answer that

question.

BRANTLEY:

~s

See, I

something we'd

think

probab~y

th~s

have to

~O

coordinate with the PSC and refer to

11

that document -- that docket.
I

that's our

13

i.ntenti.on .

They're the

14

authority.

1 don't want to

15

those regulati.ons i.nto this ITB.

16

just want --

As opposed to

17

certainly isn ' t

a tax engine,

18

constantly.

blended or a

19

would do .

front at the

20

are some extra profit in that
ASSOCIATES

And
there

BROWN;

mean,

MR.

basically, in a lot of cases,

.-... ... .

and allows

MR.

deposit -- time of deposit.

\

4

8

regulatory fees are

Montgomery, A1.abama
) 263-0261 or

regu1atory authority understands that

12

vendors who don't have

&

3

BROWN:

ab.le to

allowable by the PSC .

DUNN, KING

Is that -- the

BROWN :

MR.

the --

rounded amount up

MR.

2

So i f a

acc uracy,

and they charge a

scenari.o.

7

the question

he y're
sys teXll, t
billing
taX for whatever
the ex act
charge
.11 is going to .
' urisdiction the ea
.
J
the family and fr~end
And so
they get charged
or the inmate ,
the actual tax, plus
you knoW',

whatever

~

regu~atory
bui~d

and that's something
going to flake fol

That's something the

MR. ORSO:

So that's a quest;

21

you can address in the written

22

document?

23

1

That's all.

Thank. you.

DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES

Montgomery, Alabama

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Vicki John so n with

2
u yLi t1Jc •
con t r
X ' d like to go back
I~ I tolAY,
d that is
que. tion , an

3
4

question • .
d
?
debit calling to a y

O

type o~

,

c411.1 n 9 '

' t

another .bilJ. Y

So that i . u •• d

today .
So the quest1.on l.s --

I

understand you to say that you would
like to have an integrated debit
80

that inmates can pay for

process

9

their calling via a debit and have

10

something other than a debi.t card?
So that's something that , yes, you

Wh a t we're using

12

are looking to do,

we don't have

13

MR . BROWN :

we're selling

14

we're looking to do.

15

i t ' s not a

16

MS .

calling and

And debit 18

for inmates to pay

Eor calling.

No .

HR . BROWN:

3

MS . JOHNSON:

8

coll ec t

10

2

7

There 8

prepaid calling .

(1

6

R1.9 ht .

Y••.

BROWN :

11

..L

9

Whether

or integrated deb i t

c. rd •

' t t.

MR .

5

Ar e yoU u sing a ny
t"

debit cards?

. ht

ug

nOW - -

because

the technology -- is

out of the commissary ,

voue h 8 r.

.

bas~CA

lly

with a PIN number.

And

to implement?

That's something
But, Vicki,

requirement in this ITS .

JOHNSON:

I

understand .

It's

f

then they ' d make phone calls on i t .

17

not a requirement, but something that

We are -- we want to move forward in

18

you'd like to have?

19

that other direction .

MR.

BROWN :

Right .

But we are

20

not going to score that

understand you to say is, yes,

21

when we look at this ITB.

you are using debit today by means of

22

provide i t ,

vouchers?

23

provide i t , great.

MS. JOHNSON:

what I

Great.

So then

What some people call

DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES
Montgomery, Alabama
(334) 263-0261 or (800)

.

',,' "

,.

great;

capabil~ty

So i f yo·

if you don't

DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES

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MS .

J OHNSON :

So ,

then ,

very g' oo d .
the ~ast question

1

MS.

ANTLE :

2

MR.

MERCER :

Securus

4

of,

5
6

Do you

have the abi~itY to

or te~1 u s

the amo unt of

determine
r eve nue or
O
t
und er the de b .1.

r

MR . BROWN :

can te.l'! you right

' t ' s negligib.l e .
noW ...

Because we --

o bust enough yet.
i t ' s not r
r see.
MS . JOHNSON :
MIL

So i t ' s real loy

BROWN:

rea11y I

it's data that

don't think

X think,

coup~e

c~ar~fication

We've ta1ked a

__ we're not doing i t

enough.

How long have you

MS . JOHNSON:

who~e

10t

7

today about the fees that are ca11ed

B

out on page four of the ITB.

9

want to clarify that that 4.7S fee
regard~ess

10

the flat fee ,

11

"just

1.

~s

amount of deposit.

So if somebody

12

13

i t ' s 4 . 75 .

14

or $100, i t ' s 4 . 15 .

15

would help anybOdy at this point .

It's not a

Just •

questions.

proce ss today?

qu e 8t~on8?

Adam Mercer of

Technolog~e8.

3

cal ling that's generat e d

o n debit.

Any other

of the

depos~ts

$25,

say per $25 .

16

1£ someone

MR. BROWN :

depos~ts

$50

Not 4 . 75 per --

Yeah.

These are

process?
MR.

Less than a year.

BROWN:

Less than a year?

MS. JOHNSON:
MRo

BROWN :

And only at some

17

maximum allowable fees.

18

had the debit voucher system in

deposits 25 bucks and you only want

19

to charge them 2 . 50, that would be

20

great.

21

4.15 is the max you can ask for.

22
locations.

MS. JOHNSON:
NN, KING

« ASSOCIATES

Ifontgomery,

?63-0261

I

see.

Thank you.

23

1. f

somebod~

If they charge 150 bucks,

MR. MERCER:

Very good.

you.

DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES
Montgomery, Alabama
(800) 359-8001

Than

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l.

X mean ,

that ' s

part of

MR. MERCER :

2

Well,

again, per the

and i t ' s fairly

standard

3

questi.on

4

practice to ask the question .

5

6
5
6

7

all oL t h e
telephones
inmate

II

12
l3

4
5

agency to add the requirement that
a~1.

vendors,

",. k e
th e

to cl ~ rify and
t
just wsn
the stAte is okay with
sure that

9

a1.~

equipment.

MR.

10

new

you do &1so

We~1,

BRANTLEY:

incutnbent vendor

fa ct thB t

has a

inc1.usive of the

incumbent, provide

I

10

standard practice for the

B

telephone s .

8

9

7

~air1.y

A1.80

11

have the abi1ity to negotiate -- have

financial advantage

12

a separate

because of that .

13

current vendor

14

vendor to get

the

signi£icBnt

rocur e ment

in thiS P
financial. stake
's a significant
There
__ especia.lly
involved in replacing
clarify and make
the __ just want to
and
at the state is aware
sure th
.
okay with the fact
understands and ~s

that the incumb en

t

this procurement.

Yeah .

I'm not sure

there's anything we can do about it.
DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES
Montgomery, Alabama
(33') 263-0261 or

~t .

MR.

So,

I

w~nn~ng

mean

Certain~y.

MR. MERCER:

16

the

you are the

~f

15

w~th

BRANTLEY:

The phone system

17

~s

18

it .

19

somebody replace something that is

20

actually working,

21

vendor has a

. 1 advantage in
significant financ~a

MR. BROWN:

transact~on

operationa~?

22
23

working today.

Why

MR.

wou~d

And we

d~scussed

we want to go make

MERCER:

is supposed to be

Just in the sake

of -DUNN, KING , ASSOCIATES
Alabama

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c on t r a c t

b~

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E v ery contra c t

2

that

•

3

the Stat. haa , you know . you ' re voinv

I

4

to have an

2

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vendor .

~ n cuab.nt

And

5

4

6

,
5

7

8

u.

the winn i nq vendo r
to ba Collla
wi th the
n ..... oti • e •

there ' .

9

7

Vo i nq to have the .dvant_Va .

that .

just nothinq

w.

For instance ,

10

And

can do about

X

.~so

do the

i n e ulllbent .

. plication&: .

understands the ~m

I understand .

HI! . BRANTLEY :

Thanks .
MS . ANTLE:

..., "

,"

~"'\

..

.-

•

,

had_

that the 01d vendor

And they know that going in .

you

20

there's noth~n9 we can do about

21

that.

DUNN, KING G ASSOCIATES

...

that they

know,

maximum number of years we ca

..

16

if

then they

19

OU

.... ....

air card and every wire1ess device

different vendor qets it,

ired -- or the

'd these contrac t S, Y
know , b ...
th max-every five years at
e

" ',,

have to replace every cell phone and

And 1£ a new - -

18

State is required by law to,

Montgomery, Alabama
34) 263-0261 or (800)

a

rebid.

And every five

state

Well ,

purchasing is requ

13

15

n.

year. 1t ' .

14

lar if'icatio

Just the C
d in the room
. ure everyb o Y

Make

cell phon. contract.

12

..

11

17

than

know,

n hold a

22
23

And so that's just -- you
that ' s

just the way ~t is, and

MS. JOHNSON :

V~cki

Johnson with

CenturyLink.
DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES

Montgomery, Alabama

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MR . ORSO :

Robert Orao from GTO .

2
1

3

3

un d

•

t:ia t8 with

neqO

5

•

~o

r

ph one

the

equipment.

' ncl ude the
__ "ould not lnot
. ma nt that they
ry equJ.P
propria t &

6

additional credit a •• igned to t hat aa

6

But that d oes

•• rvic.. .

5

erlJtand

aomaon • • • ked about value added

4

2

rar aa the bid evaluation .

Thera would b. no

What about ir the vendor

7

have.
Fo r
the system.

example,
I
)fes.

e
10

understand .it

11

~nclud e

~

they have their

because

system here.

providing neW

that woul.d

MR . BROWN:

No.

No.

We tried to

12

build this to where -- i t basically

13

wa s

14

is and whatever the per diem rate is,

15

is basically going to be -- I

16

there's -- this is not an RFP .

-- whatever the commission rat.

MR. ORSO :
MR .

19

20

be greatly appreciated .
.

?

Any other quest10ns .

Right .

We ' re not evaluating

BROWN:

different pieces of it.
MR. ORSO :

And just for

Okay.

clarification.

22

that are used in the documents to

23

identify the ITB.

There's two numbers

On the standard

Go ahead.
DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES

DUNN, KING ,. ASSOCIATES

Montgomery, Alabama
334) 263-0261 or

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mean,

21

Thank you.

MS . ANTLE:

all and is strictly

18

given to everyone
equipmen t ,

Will that come into play at

17

So if there'S any
consideration

rates?

at the DOC for

the phone.
'm understandinq
sut what I
.
yoU know that the
yOU to say J.s ,
an advantage,
existing proprietor has

does

chooses to offer lower fees or

9

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Thi.

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It had nothinq to do

and t.h. b1.4 eop.n1nq

eO that th. bid cl.~~ w~ 11
that .. t

t.hey o.n r.cord

12
X',,. GOt. yO\l

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hid pae'.~.

.nd not )uat r_9u1ar .... t, and that

11

contraat n\l_be",

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r.cooni~.

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and q.t. lt. Lnt-o

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14

aut

the ITS

16
l7

number will chanqo

I
I

a ._ th18 i . the
-,nd tha
and
you're QoinQ to co_plete

t·.

._ with any other

.end J.n and

that yOU were

requ~red

,.ttach ment •

8ut th1. h •• to be

completed correctlY
completed,

IJlrES

IX'i'IN KIN';;. JlSSOC
I-/t"lntq.:)lllflry , Al b.Uk'

(334) 26J-02bl or

MR

15

18
19
20

21
to

22
23

ORSO:

11.11

r1.qht

La.

quo.tio n
the atorao. t1.m. for the recoE41nqI

didn't catch whether you re q01Dq

to ch&nge 1.t from 90 4aya

length of contract.

0

Or ia t.ba

baing con ... 4.red~
MR

;o1.n

BROWN
~o

leave .. t

he

alone.

DUNN. XING

001

at.ill

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Nov,

1

2
3

i~ you

need to c.~l me

to ask ma about how to ~il1 this out,
then I

will consider ans.arinq that.

4

5
."tion.f:
.
s
you
in out' qu
n occa,,10tl I
ust
there'. j
d ad :further
1
"are nea
ha.r. oal s
're willinq
len ow , "
o days back . So
g

But anything concarninq bid spac. or ,

you k now,

6

b~d,

7

discussion ror

8

conclude this meetin9·

b.·

w.

th. n

to ,

yOU .know I

increase

This is t

(NO

you wil.l

r this

But

to be to answer any questions.
,nee we conclude this meeting,
annat answer any more

we

technical

MS.

14
.
questl.on s'
.

f~ll

the

b~d

out

response)

13

bmit questions 0
have to su
So, you know,
invitation to bid.
long as you need us
we're here for as

'-0261 or (800)

specs and how to

12

he last opportunity

ltqo111ery, Alabama

one • • •

and what to submit?

Any other

KING .. ASSOCIATES

the

So is everyone clear on the

9

11

f

~

quest~ona

change the

Thank you .

lestions.

or

be c10sed ror

b~d

I understand.

MR. BROWN :

MS . ANTLE :

w~11

'
up to you.
But .it s

requ .i rements.

MR. ORSO :

i~

that

cond~t~on.

and

10

guys wanted to

you

the s toraq.

term s

concluded,

15

for your attendance.

16

17

ANTLE:
then.

This meeti.ng i.5
Thank you very much

(The proceedi.ngs concluded at
11:00 a.m.)

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19

20
21
22

23
DUNN, KING & ASSOCIATES

Montgomery, A1.abama

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Pr:~c,,~""
--,r1I'-

_

PhoneI

Numbl<ollnm.tn

SO$39

X

25.eea 00 X

0.- _1.2:~~~~:;~;£X4I'~~J-'
,385

_~

•

"-"-tIge

c;u.rontee

Estim.ted Revenue
10 OOO~ X $
120.000

•

S

12.000

5061 ,79398
,

Gr1Ind TOIII

Securus
-

JJ

"""'-

ctem rate
SO 500

Number of Inmates

Days

25.668.00 X

X

•

365

To1al
4.684.41000

Percentage

PucIic: ~ """'-

Guanit1lee
Estimated Revenue
0 250% X $
120.000
Grand Total

= $
300
4.684.710.00

Talton
Proposed Per
detm rate

-

Phones

SO 544

or Inmateo

D.~

25.668.00 X

Number
X

365

•

Total
5.096.63808

•

$

•

Totll
5.358.96504

•

$

P...centage
Guatantee
E,timated Revenue
100 000% X S
120.000
Grand Total

120.000

5.216.638 os

Century Link
p,OI>OHd Pit'

do,m ,a,.

so 572

Numblt'

X

or Inmat.,
25.MB 00 X

DI~
385

P ...centag.

Guaranlee

eatlm.ted Rev.nu.
120.000

87699% X S

Grand Total

105.239

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